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The Question
neuspeed wrote: "Now Im in a fix, The Octane has from what I have read and seen on Utube more Ft lb, and more FPS, and cost less, on the flip side the Benjamin Marauder Nice clip, very quite, and no pumping? The take down power, and accuracy is my concern. Why would it be better to buy the Benjamin Marauder? sell me on this one..."
Community Discussion
WildBill wrote: "Well Neuspeed, I'm not a salesman, but unless you intend on buying a Scuba tank, a high pressure compressor, or a compressor booster, you'll be pumping! And that becomes tiresome very FAST! But if you want to be in the forefront of air gun technology, and do not mind buying and lugging a tank around with you, go for it. But before you jump, check out life span of the tanks, especially the light weight carbon fiber tanks that most shooters want. All of your decisions in life are yours, choose wisely."
Garththomas wrote: "There are quite a few differences in your two choices the first being size and weight, the Umarex is huge and heavy. If you want to compare a springer to a pcp look at ones that are in the same price range so hopefully the quality will match, I wouldn't expect as much from the Umarex as the Marauder. The shooting experience will be like night and day between these two with the Umarex losing badly. Power ratings from manufacturers should be taken with a grain of salt and it is widely accepted that air rifles that shoot Diablo style pellets function best below 950fps so any more is a waste. maybe the comparison would be closer if it was a Discovery instead of the Marauder or an RWS48 or 350 instead of the Umarex."
Jeffersonian1962 wrote: "Well, if my impressions are correct, you seem to have some disposible income on your hands, so with that consideration, why not go for the higher accuracy and power of a pcp? The concern for pcp accessories, though important to keep in mind, as far as money and upkeep go, is not that big deal over time-with the payback in performance. I have always been a Magnum break barrel purchaser, but if I had a little extra money to through the way of a decent pcp-which is what the M-rod and Disco both are-I would jump at the chance. Go for a .22 Marauder or Disco, and the easy to get aftermarket parts will enhance your shooting experience."
neuspeed wrote: "What after market parts do they offer? And where can I find them? If I had some real cash to burn I would get the Daystate Air Wolf MCT"
Garththomas wrote: "I think the wooden stock option for the Umarex might add from $30.00- $80.00 to the price no more. I also think the display of accuracy for the Marauder doesn't represent properly how accurate those rifles are, if my cheap pcp shot like that at 20yds I wouldn't be happy. Also the reviewer who said the Marauder was too long and heavy to take hunting would probably get a real shock from the Umarex which is 3" longer and 2 lbs. heavier. That being said the Umarex looks like a nice shooting gun with average accuracy and well worth the money."
neuspeed wrote: "Thanks for the replies, You are right the Umarex is not a light gun. Well I think that I will try the Umrex, But if I find a smoking deal on the Marauder I might go for it... But The Umarex for under $200 cant pass it up for what it has to offer."
harless88yj wrote: "Did you get the Octane? I have one on the way, and its killing me not knowing if it will spit 14.3 grain 22 cal pellets around the 950 fps mark? I can order lighter or heavier of course but the 14.3 and 14.5 grain pellets I can get local. I cant wait to see what it produces speed wise.... come on Fed ex, hurry hurry hurry......."
neuspeed wrote: "Did a interesting test today with the Octane, while most ppl prefer to chrono their guns at the muzzle I prefer to chrono at the target. That way I know exactly the amount of force the pest is being hit with, does that make sense. I shoot the Octane any where between 15-30yards, I did the low end 15yards, I put the chrono at 15yards and put the target behind it. @15yards I got 776fps with the JSB 18.13 which gave me 24.2ft-lbs. which is very good."
harless88yj wrote: "Neuspeed, thanks for posting chrony results. My only local source for pellets is Wally world (crosman premier hp, and the benjamin discovery multi pack). All 14.3 to 14.5 grains. I guess I will have to fork up the dough and order the big multi pack from straight shooters, and pick from those. I do have a question for you, if you dont mind. Are you going to use the RWS chamber oil every 1000 shots like suggested? I have read so much conflicting info on that subject."
harless88yj wrote: "Oh nice shooting also, is that even broke in yet? I hope I get a shooter like that. I have to work on trigger pull. The Benjamin, I had to send back due to the barrel lock, had a mile of trigger pull. My Five Seven I conceal carry has a trigger I dont like either. The airgun triggers make it hard for me to hit a squirrels head at 30 yards. Again thanks for posting info on your Octane. Not much to read about it besides commercials, and I dont trust marketing....."
neuspeed wrote: "One Thing that I did notice is that the Octane likes 18gr pellets, I have a tin of RWS 14gr pellets and the fit was so tight that the chrono numbers were not much better the the 18.13! I am going to stick with the 18.13gr and that will be the only pellet that I use for the gun. I also tried the JSB 15.89gr. Now that I found my pellet I have to look for the mods that will give me close to 800-850fps That would give me 25-30ft-lbs"
neuspeed wrote: "No I do not have a tin thru it yet. but when I got it I replace the breech seal, cleaned the barrel and did some of my own lube job. The trig On the Octane needs work! its not very good..... I had to take it apart and adjust it to where it has a short pull. BUT BEWARE if you adjust it DO NOT DO IT LOADED IT WILL MISFIRE WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BARREL!!!! So what I did was adjust it to misfire then start turning the adjustment screw out until it was safe then gave it another 1/4 turn. here is a link to the Umarex blog or owners forum, you will find a lot there! http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/umarexoctane/conversations/messages"
headhunter wrote: "I would have made the same choice, I hear the .22 Mrods are still having some barrel issues. That's some serious accuracy!"
neuspeed wrote: "Thanks, I was blown away by the accuracy, and the power. She needs trig work, not the best trig by far, but you can get away with it. As more ppl dive into this gun I think a lot of mods, and other stocks will start popping up. I would like a shroud for it like my fusion, but no one likes to make them for a break barrel...."
harless88yj wrote: "Which seal did you order? I couldnt find a Octane specific seal? I am new to this, dont know if the hardware run of the mill o rings would work? I did read that the warning tag they put in between the barrel and port took a few thousandths off of the seal thickness?"
neuspeed wrote: "Its a #109 o-ring. http://www.broadleyjames.com/o-rings-size-chart.html"
neuspeed wrote: "I did some testing today, first someone said on a forum that you could use a 1/4 stereo plug to fix deformed pellets. We all get those from time to time specialty if you order from amazon.... Well I'm glad to say that it works! You have to grind down the tip little to make a perfect fit. so what I did was take 11 deformed ones and used the 1/4 plug on them. I shot 6 single shots on the outside and a 5 shot group in the center @25yards."
neuspeed wrote: "Oh I almost forgot, You can also use it to seat your pellet! I made it so I can wear it around my neck."
harless88yj wrote: "Thanks for the o-ring size! The stereo plug, skirt repair tool is a cool idea. You got my gears turning on a brass, skirt, seater tool. Been mocking up a speed loader project (long ways to go). Keep the tips coming....."
harless88yj wrote: "Neuspeed, I got my Octane tonight!!!!!!!!!!!! Feels great, love the tight lockup. The first shot was a loud one, made the wife jump upstairs. I broke out the chrony after 20 shots or so, and set it up. Speed wise it was doing about 875fps on average, 2 feet from muzzle. For now I am one happy camper."
neuspeed wrote: "GREAT! Yes my 1st shot sounded like a 22rimfire! but now its nice.. on the Octane yahoo group they are doing some good tweaking. It will take a while to get the trig how you like it. That set screw that adjust the trig has a sharp point on the end of it, take it out and smooth it over. thats another thing that should be done right away."
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