My first HUMA Edgun Leshiy arrived! Any scope suggestions?

This thing is a neat little toy!!! Never thought I would buy another single shot Edgun before anticitpating buying a new 22 Lelya multishot but here it is.

Just received a "New to me" Leshiy in 177 with 350mm barrel and custom laminate grips in my favorite color. First impression is that it is very light and compact and noticeably quiet for a PCP pistol carbine. It sounds like my 177 Vortek HW30(S) in 177 which is nowhere near silent shooting but within back yard friendliness. Previous owner told me it is currently set up for 50 plus shots on a 250 bar fill at around 15fpe. It can be bumped up or down but I think I'll leave it be for now.

As I was shouldering it I noticed I may have difficulty finding an adequate scope and/or mounts for it.

Any suggestions?

Thank you.

HA

Color me jealous....  I'd always assumed the Leshiy wouldnt get that kind of shot count... seeing as I normally turn my .177 PCP's down to 15ish fpe, that is right about perfect and getting that many shots is incredible. 

Love the grip on it and the shroud extension.  Really wanting to justify getting one, but it's just hard to do.  I have a Cricket compact in .177 that currently fills that niche for me, but I rarely shoot it nowadays.

Far as a scope, I have to say I really like the MCT Connect on my Hummingbird, but I'll admit it's a bit awkward for most shooting getting that close to the scope.  Still, I think that would compliment your gun nicely from an aesthetic standpoint. 

Thanks for the suggestion Rob, I have a 177 Cricket standard and 177 shorty as well and it has been a while since I have shot either of them as well.

What really impressed me the most about the Leshiy is how light this thing is and when folded it is almost like a pistol and can be stuffed in a very small bag or case.

I am not sure how the shot count would be with the factory Edgun regulator since this one has a HUMA reg installed.

The biggest plus is that you can easily change calibers if you want rather than buying another gun in a different caliber, just need the barrel for $115.00 if you want another caliber. I would think about getting a 350mm in 22 in the future.

HA

My Leshiy with the stock regulator in .177 at around 15fp got about 30 shots. But I was not filling much past 200bar. It now has the .25 barrel and is pushing JSB 33s at close to 800fps, shot count is only around 10 but what a compact hammer.

i also am on the lookout for the ultimate Leshiy scope, have not found it. But I keep a bug buster in quick detach rings and that is what is found on it the most. Not the best but good to keep around while the search continues. 

Hotair,

I found the Leupold, 4-12x40 Mark AR Mod 1, to be a great fit, and pleasantly balanced for my hunting needs. The problem I found was in choosing the right height rings to clear the 40mm objective lense. I ended up placing pieces of wood between the leshiy picatinny rail  and scope body until objective lense cleared. Spent some time researching and found these rings to best fit this scope allowing for scope to end at the folding stock hinge and still allow for good, repeatable eye relief. Very happy with both scope and ring choices. The rings used are the Warne Mountain Tech 7204M 1" ultra high in matte finish. Most brands of high rings wont be high enough for the 40mm optics so you will tend to look for AR specific rings. Also note these are not the heavy metal Warne rings we all come to know and the Mountain Tech Series by Warne are made of aluminium and therefore much lighter and pairs well with the lightweight  Leshiy, though expense.

Sorry, a bit long winded but hope it was of some help.

Edited for spelling and note that the scope sports a mildot reticle.

Cheers

What is the minimum focus on the AO on that Leupold Mark AR Mod1 4-12x40AO?

I have read they are on sale somewhere, have to check it out and thanks!

HA

I had to put a rail extension on mine to get the eye relief I wanted.

Hey Rick I have a couple of those base extenders but mine are 11mm to Weaver Picatinny.

Do you have a link to that one you have? It looks perfect for what I need.

And what is that duck feet looking thingamajing on the fore end Picatinny rail where a bipod goes?

HA

Hotair,

Specs on the Leupold state 25 yard min parallax. Others on another forum claimed 17 yards and better and I decided to buy when found on sale. I can easily get 15 yards min parallax on 12 power. So I would think anywhere between 15 and 17 yard to be minimum parallax on full power.

Retail price seems to be  between $449.99 $499.99. Presently at SWFA I see them for $350.oo.

If you live close by I would make arrangements to meet up. Always nice to see first hand. I'm in Northern CA.

Cheers

Posted by: Hotair

Hey Rick I have a couple of those base extenders but mine are 11mm to Weaver Picatinny.

Do you have a link to that one you have? It looks perfect for what I need.

And what is that duck feet looking thingamajing on the fore end Picatinny rail where a bipod goes?

HA

Nothing but the best for my guns. ? 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-Riser-Rifle-Scope-Mount-Flat-Top-Picatinny-Weaver-Rail-w-Extension-14-Slot/312029465800?hash=item48a667ccc8:g:8FYAAOSwuNNcEtOo&frcectupt=true

I think the fore grip was one of these. More comfortable on my hand than the weaver rail.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Angled-AFG-2-Foregrip-Fore-Grip-Airsoft-Rifle-20mm-Weaver-Rails-Hunting/253714219006?epid=2269424475&hash=item3b128bbffe:m:myHqO3_i1oaXHBy_ykbYyxg

Offset rings and the Burris 4.5-14x32 seems just about perfect for me. Parallex down to like 7yds

Big TinBoat,

That is a good looking  setup. I almost hit the buy button on that scope a couple times but was concerned with the 14 power having 32mm objective, but hear some great reviews. 

Sometimes I find it harder buying a scope than knowing what gun to buy next. It's all part of the journey!  Enjoy

I don't do any nighttime shooting, but anything during legal hours (1/2hr before sunrise to 1.2hr after sunset) has not been an issue for me while squirrel hunting. The scope is bright and clear to me. I particularity like the longer eye relief of this scope. It allows for mounting in a position so that when the gun is folded the eyepiece does not extend beyond the end of the gun. If you look at this vs Rick's gun with bugbuster you will see my gun is probably 2" shorter (not including shroud difference) when folded.

wow, beautiful rig HA. This one is on my shortlist for sure. In .177. How is the accuracy? 

Well, have you seen EdGuns little scope? Dedal Stalker? Pricey, but it looks like it’s made just for the Leshiy. 

Posted by: BigTinBoat

I don't do any nighttime shooting, but anything during legal hours (1/2hr before sunrise to 1.2hr after sunset) has not been an issue for me while squirrel hunting. The scope is bright and clear to me. I particularity like the longer eye relief of this scope. It allows for mounting in a position so that when the gun is folded the eyepiece does not extend beyond the end of the gun. If you look at this vs Rick's gun with bugbuster you will see my gun is probably 2" shorter (not including shroud difference) when folded.

Those rings turned around would probably give me the eye relief I like. I could get rid of the rail.

Posted by: pluric

Those rings turned around would probably give me the eye relief I like. I could get rid of the rail.

Yes Rick - I had actually bought those rings and used them the other way with my BugBuster before getting the Burris

I used mine pretty far forward, but in the pic you can see there is still a bunch of room to move the mounts rearward.

I got them from Amazon for $20

https://www.amazon.com/Monstrum-Tactical-Offset-Reversible-diameter/dp/B00YFPNDOG/ref=sr_1_16?crid=2XG3TB2329O8F&keywords=monstrum+offset+mount&qid=1555540398&s=gateway&sprefix=monstrum+offset%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-16

MABUHAY BIG TIN BOAT! Noticed the Burris is made in the Philippines so the glass should be good!

7 yard parallax? I just bought one!

HA

Ordered the cantilever rings in a 30mm. Thank you BigTinBoat!

Rick

Posted by: Hotair

MABUHAY BIG TIN BOAT! Noticed the Burris is made in the Philippines so the glass should be good!

7 yard parallax? I just bought one!

HA

I think you will love it. With most of my guns it seems I am always switching scopes and trying different ones to get that "best" one for it. With the Leshiy I put that Burris on and have NO thoughts of changing it at all.

Rick - glad I could help you out. I have had ZERO issues with my rings thus far. Every time I get my gun out it is dead on the first shot. I usually take it out at least once a week during the off season and shoot at my 20-30yd spinners. This combo I my most reliable one. It will take a bit to learn to shoot. Once you figure out a consistent hold just stay with that.

Well that was some fast shipping on the rings! I like them. Same eye relief as with the extension rail. Only issue is Leshiys don't let the weaver mount go all the way back on the rail. I've been tempted a couple times to dremel it. I tried once on a ring base and it just didn't work. Can't bring myself to mod the gun yet. the other thing was the front cantilever mount hits the scope when moved forward. It all worked so it's fine.

My pellet holder used to be on the rings. They had a large flat spot. So I just put one on the flat part of the shroud. Holds just enough for between fills.

Sighted it in and no surprise it shot like I thought it should.

Rick,

Glad you like it. I think the issue with hitting the bell is your objective diameter. With the bug buster I was even able to put the flip up cap on and still have clearance without hitting.

Amazing how quick Amazon can deliver nowadays.

Amazon makes ebay feel like the pony express. I do a fair amount of ebay purchases and that's the most first world problem the slow delivery. 

Well I got this pair of Eagle Vision Infinity 2 piece adjustable rings and Sportsmatch cantilever picatinny 1 piece mounts and hope either will work. Lost the pics for the Sportsmatch, have to retake more photos. Anyone know if drooper mounts necessary for the Leshiy?

One set that is not used on my Leshiy will be used on my HW110 but the Leshiy gets first pick.

HA

I am an IDIOT!!! I bought 2 sets of premium mounts that are 30mm and the Burris Timberline is 1 inch???

May have to use one of my extra Bushnell Elite 6500s 2.5-16x42 Mildots instead!

HA

Duct tape? ? 

HAHA Gorilla brand ???

Do you know if the Leshiy has a MOA already compensated into the base?

Can you optically center your scope?

My concern if I ever put a high magnification scope onto it if I will run out of

elevation clicks?

HA

I don't know. I zero mine for 30 yards and use mildots on the longer shots. Never been a clicker. Just using a cheap Bug Buster.

Here is the other mount possibility for the Leshiy, Sportsmatch. 30mm as well.

HA

This is excellent advice

I have decided on an SWFA SS 3-15x42 for it and await its arrival. Will post pics and impressions when I scope it up and get the chance to shoot this one. Haven't shot it yet pending optics.

The Burris Timberline 4.5-14x32AO ended up on my 177 Vortek HW30 Laminate Urban Pro.

Thanks

HA

Posted by: Hooligan

Hotair,

Specs on the Leupold state 25 yard min parallax. Others on another forum claimed 17 yards and better and I decided to buy when found on sale. I can easily get 15 yards min parallax on 12 power. So I would think anywhere between 15 and 17 yard to be minimum parallax on full power.

Retail price seems to be  between $449.99 $499.99. Presently at SWFA I see them for $350.oo.

If you live close by I would make arrangements to meet up. Always nice to see first hand. I'm in Northern CA.

Cheers

Thanks you for your kind offer but unfortuneately I don't live in Cali and the last time I visited was more than 40 years ago. Will keep you in mind if I ever get a chance to go to Cali.

HA

Hi HO,

I have been looking at the same thing you are looking at – a suitable scope for a take-down subcarbine. In my case an Artemis PP700S-A.

I have looked high and low, and it’s been very hard, if you’re trying to get a number of features that are very common in scopes larger than say 14" in length: E.g.:

As an airgunner, my scope’s parallax must focus down to 10y, I shoot that close and closer.
And to make my holdover adjustments I need exposed turrets (capped turrets intrigue me – why put a lid on something I need frequently and that functions perfectly – unless it does not function all that well?!?
I still need magnification for long range shooting, so 12x was a typical top end, but I also looked at 9x.
I wanted to limit this search to $500 max, but most models §hardly any had through thetime of the day.

So, I started making a table to compare the specs of the shorts scopes. The table is still in draft form, but here’s something useful for everybody....

Matthias

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Thanks for that useful table of scopes. I wonder how the Falcon optics scopes are?

Pretty neat reticle when I checked them out on the SWFA site. They look similar to the TAC Vector.

That UMOA reticle for the Leaper UTG is really nice. I have the 2-16x but the optics isn't the greatest but OK from around 3.5x-14.5x.

HA

I have the Falcon S18i, and I like it. But I don't have enough experience with scopes to evaluate how good the glass is. And I haven't done the box test.

But on a British forum the brand seems to have a good reputation.

Matthias

I noticed that the Brits in general are not as critical nor as demanding as us Americans.

HA

Posted by: Hotair

I noticed that the Brits in general are not as critical nor as demanding as us Americans.

HA

?

What drives me mad is the incongruent measurement units:

Many reticles (esp. from UTG, MTC, Nikko, even Hawke) are in mil (mrad) — BUT their turrets click in moa...! Make up your mind: MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL!

It's like making the road signs in miles per hour, and the speedometers only show kilometers.... = called "STUPID" in my book. Don't know which book the scope designers and engineers are using.... ? 

The Brits are so positive in their reviews that they can even sell ice to an eskimo!

The 177 12fpe UK spec. HW110 carbine is pretty "spot on" though!

A "cracking" good gun!

HA

Eagle sells reducers for their adjustable mounts, from 30mm to 1".

I use them, they're good.