I am hearing of people using Leupold scopes on spring airguns. I have seen no documentation from the factory saying they are suited for such use. I have a 10x with adjustable parallex available that I never even considered using on a spring airgun out of fear of destroying it. How do these scopes hold up on a springer?
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Might be an expensive experiment.
Probably on PCP's but too risky to use on springer IMO. I've seen numerous posts of European airgunners using very expensive scopes on their Air Arms, FWB, and Steyr air rifles.
I haven't tried it yet, because I am concerned about it holding up. I think I will hold off on trying it.
I haven't tried it yet, because I am concerned about it holding up. I think I will hold off on trying it.
Sounds like a good plan of action. :nod:
Sounds like a good plan of action. :nod:
The places where I have read of Leupolds on springers were mostly on the UK forums. Out of morbid curiosity I emailed Leupold asking for their take on all of this.
The places where I have read of Leupolds on springers were mostly on the UK forums. Out of morbid curiosity I emailed Leupold asking for their take on all of this.
Good! Give us some info if they will respond. I've been a follower of Nikon products and frankly I would love to have a scope from Nikon that can keep up with the recoil of a springer. My old Nikon binocular and camera lenses are really super crisp and bright, something that we all need for long range plinking and varmint hunting. :thumb:
Hmnn... guess i should email Nikon, too. :lol: :cheers:
Good! Give us some info if they will respond. I've been a follower of Nikon products and frankly I would love to have a scope from Nikon that can keep up with the recoil of a springer. My old Nikon binocular and camera lenses are really super crisp and bright, something that we all need for long range plinking and varmint hunting. :thumb:
Hmnn... guess i should email Nikon, too. :lol: :cheers:
It was just on the Straight Shooters website, and they have a list of recommended scopes that they sell for the HW 80, for example, that include a Leupold rimfire scope and a Bushnell 3200 elite and a 6400 scope. It seems kind of ironic that these scopes are not supposedly rated for spring airguns but are listed anyway. Maybe I am missing something here. Do certain large retailers have special runs of scopes made for them with custom specifications allowing for spring airgun use? Enlighten me, I'm confused.
Look at my post "4th scope from walmart". I went thru 3 center point 4-16x40 before I got a BSA air rifle specific scope. The Center Point is sold from pyramyd Air as an air rifle scope. I've read many other post saying they hold up fine. I was lucky because it was easy to return to WalMart.
I know that this is totally out there since the springers have the double recoil thing but...I have Leupold scopes on almost all of my guns, this including my 30-06 and my 3.5 inch slug gun.... now you think that if the scope can hold up to a 3.5 inch slug gun it should be able to stand the recoil of a springer,, but then again......
I know that this is totally out there since the springers have the double recoil thing but...I have Leupold scopes on almost all of my guns, this including my 30-06 and my 3.5 inch slug gun.... now you think that if the scope can hold up to a 3.5 inch slug gun it should be able to stand the recoil of a springer,, but then again......
I understand where you're getting at 1shot, even I can't seem to see the logic behind it. Imagine that a scope that can be used on a high caliber rifle doesn't stand a chance on a lowly recoiling spring powered air rifle... until you see how they build the scope from the inside.
From what I understand, most of the moving parts (or adjustable) parts of the internals of a scope being particular to this rimfire and gun powder propeled (high caliber) rifles they have some sort of protective mechanism (a stopping mechanism) to keep these parts in keeping their true location in the event of the recoil (backward, that is). They do not, however have that same additional protective stopping mechanism for the succeeding "forward" recoil of a springer. For one thing, that is not their intended main application. I wish I have a copy of Cardews "From Trigger to Target" to have an idea how much force that abrupt but short forward recoil is. Since they don't have any extra mechanical thing to counter that extra recoil that force is enough to knock out those optics out of alignment.
You won't hear much of this discussion on PCP's specially on some competition level type of airguns because for one thing the power output of these air rifles are low. Now, use this on the lowly springer and presto! even in just about 1,500 shots (dieseling and occasional detonation included) it can toast your scope pretty bad.
Perhaps this information can suffice for now: http://www.scopesguide.com/air-gun-scopes.html
I'm still trying to find some of the articles where I've read info about this matter but since my hard drive is full of cluttered data about airgunning I'm totally lost right now. :D
If only these fine brands could see that this market sector is constantly growing perhaps they can come up with 1 or 3 models that we can all use and appreciate. Oh, well... another wishful thinking as a springer user. :lol: :cheers:
I understand where you're getting at 1shot, even I can't seem to see the logic behind it. Imagine that a scope that can be used on a high caliber rifle doesn't stand a chance on a lowly recoiling spring powered air rifle... until you see how they build the scope from the inside.
From what I understand, most of the moving parts (or adjustable) parts of the internals of a scope being particular to this rimfire and gun powder propeled (high caliber) rifles they have some sort of protective mechanism (a stopping mechanism) to keep these parts in keeping their true location in the event of the recoil (backward, that is). They do not, however have that same additional protective stopping mechanism for the succeeding "forward" recoil of a springer. For one thing, that is not their intended main application. I wish I have a copy of Cardews "From Trigger to Target" to have an idea how much force that abrupt but short forward recoil is. Since they don't have any extra mechanical thing to counter that extra recoil that force is enough to knock out those optics out of alignment.
You won't hear much of this discussion on PCP's specially on some competition level type of airguns because for one thing the power output of these air rifles are low. Now, use this on the lowly springer and presto! even in just about 1,500 shots (dieseling and occasional detonation included) it can toast your scope pretty bad.
Perhaps this information can suffice for now: http://www.scopesguide.com/air-gun-scopes.html
I'm still trying to find some of the articles where I've read info about this matter but since my hard drive is full of cluttered data about airgunning I'm totally lost right now. :D
If only these fine brands could see that this market sector is constantly growing perhaps they can come up with 1 or 3 models that we can all use and appreciate. Oh, well... another wishful thinking as a springer user. :lol: :cheers:
I posted the question on the UK airgun BBS forum," Are Leupolds suitable for springers". I got 14 hits so far. It's about even, pro and con. Several said they have used them with no trouble. None said they used one that had broken on a springer. At least one responder felt a tuned gun prolongs scope life, which makes sense. The responders that said no, do not use them, did not apparently speak from personal experience, at least they didn't mention so in the responses. More likely from personal opinion or perceived common knowledge their opinions were formed. So I will wait to see if Leuopold responds to my email question.
I'd rely on Leupold for feedback and warranty info...in case. You may want to check out Mac1's site and read up on their mounts along with modifying your mounts. Their approach is to minimize the stress on the rings and scope itself on springers along with droop compensation which they say is an issue with 85% of all springers and not just RWS.
They're also one of the best sources for pellets....click on WLL for prices and shipping is free over $150.
They're also one of the best sources for pellets....click on WLL for prices and shipping is free over $150.
airguns of arizona says any leupold can handle the recoil from a magnum springer, so when i called
leupold they confirmed what aoa said But they also said that they recomend their vx2 & vx3 efr (efr= extended focus range) because they have an adjustable objective and are good for close range.
http://www.straightshooters.com/leupold/leu55152652040efr.html
http://www.straightshooters.com/leupold/leu587103933efr.html
leupold they confirmed what aoa said But they also said that they recomend their vx2 & vx3 efr (efr= extended focus range) because they have an adjustable objective and are good for close range.
http://www.straightshooters.com/leupold/leu55152652040efr.html
http://www.straightshooters.com/leupold/leu587103933efr.html
I emailed Leupold the end of last week, and they still haven't bothered to respond about my question of using my M8 10x silhouette scope on my HW. This scope has the parallex adjustable objective and micrometer turret knobs with a one minute dot. A sweet scope for an airgun. It was an extra scope I had. It's now sitting on my seldom used #3 Ruger 22 Hornet. If in a few days they still don't reply I will call them.
I finally got a response via email tonight from Leupold. Kind of vague at best. They said my 10x would not be a good match for my HW. They suggested I buy one of their 3X9 EFR scopes. No other info provided.
Hello gents,
New here, but not "new"... if ya' know what I mean. :p
Any Leupold scope can be mounted on any springer. That's right, all Leupold scopes are built to magnum springer standards... or better.
Now... that doesn't mean you can (or want to) use any Leupold scope on a springer... because a good majority of them will not focus down to 10 meters. Some of them, for example the 36 and 45 BR benchrest as well as any of their AO competition scopes will focus down to 50 ft... a bit less actually, so those could be used on a springer if one was inclined.
I have, or should I say had, a older 1" tube Leupold 36BR mounted on my new Cometa Fusion... worked fine. I'm taking it off however because I actually "borrowed" it off my 6PPC benchrest rifle... and I kinda need it back. :lol:
As I doubt I'll be competing with the Cometa, I just ordered a Hawke 4-12X40 Airmax scope. It really was a weird sensation to buy a scope that doesn't cost $600 or more. :nod:
Cheers,
C
New here, but not "new"... if ya' know what I mean. :p
Any Leupold scope can be mounted on any springer. That's right, all Leupold scopes are built to magnum springer standards... or better.
Now... that doesn't mean you can (or want to) use any Leupold scope on a springer... because a good majority of them will not focus down to 10 meters. Some of them, for example the 36 and 45 BR benchrest as well as any of their AO competition scopes will focus down to 50 ft... a bit less actually, so those could be used on a springer if one was inclined.
I have, or should I say had, a older 1" tube Leupold 36BR mounted on my new Cometa Fusion... worked fine. I'm taking it off however because I actually "borrowed" it off my 6PPC benchrest rifle... and I kinda need it back. :lol:
As I doubt I'll be competing with the Cometa, I just ordered a Hawke 4-12X40 Airmax scope. It really was a weird sensation to buy a scope that doesn't cost $600 or more. :nod:
Cheers,
C
scroll down about 3/4 http://www.lasc.us/RangingShotRifleAirGunScopes.htm
this is the scope i want !
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/air-rifle-scopes/vx-ii-3-9x33mm-ultralight-efr/
this is the scope i want !
http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/air-rifle-scopes/vx-ii-3-9x33mm-ultralight-efr/
That looks like a very fine airgun scope to me! :D :cheers:
Absolutely. :thumb: That's one of a few air rifle specific Leupolds... Focus down to 10 meters.
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